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Motorola Mobility vs Motorola Solutions. Different companies. Different owners. Different nationalities.


Go ahead and trust them.

I won't.


Then keep using your phone made from magic pixie dust, because we live in reality where you can't just grow out "the perfect" hardware company from a seed.


There are other Android distributions without suspicious funding sources that don't force you into google-owned hardware, nor give you as second option to jump directly into NSA hardware suppliers.


But they are not NSA hardware suppliers.


Yes, they are. Since decades now. DYOR.


It's a different company. They just share the same name. You don't do your research properly. This is a Chinese-owned company, part of Lenovo.

(I mostly don't trust them because they are Chinese-owned, but then, everything is made either in China or by China-friendly Foxconn so, whatever.)


Please stop.

Companies change ownership, contracts with customers don't.

I seriouly hope you commented out of naivety rather than malice to fool others here.


No, you're mixing up entirely different companies. GrapheneOS is working with the Lenovo subsidiary.


It's a different, unrelated company. You don't trust it because of a shared logo?

The mobile motorola is a fully Chinese company that just shares the brand because of history. It's nonsense to not trust it because a different company does NSA stuff. This is a basically unrelated Chinese company!


Very different. Oh so different.

That argument worked suprisingly well with boomers. Those with access to the internet in the last 20 years will find absolutely zero difference when a company changes ownership on the surface while retaining the previous business links.


I would like to know what kind of phone you are using.


At the moment this model: https://www.hotwav.com/products/hotwav-hyper-8-ultra-rugged-... with a modified Android based on LineageOS.

Connects to the world using GSM and radio using satellites throught https://geogram.radio


So your solution is using a dropshipped phone from a sketchy no-name Chinese company?


And I'm sure that Mediatek chipset has already been pre-backdoored for access by the folks at Cellebrite/Greykey/etc :|


Now provide a reliable link for that claim.


Yes.

You are arguing for absolute privacy, I am arguing for _more_ privacy than adopting well-known spyware devices.

There is a difference.




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