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>> windows and macos cant even do proper window managing for a start

> Well they certainly manage them better than x11 and wayland.

X11 doesn't manage Windows. You'd know this if you used it, and if you've used it, you'd know why some consider the window management on Windows and MacOS very primitive.



> X11 doesn't manage Windows. You'd know this if you used it, and if you've used it, you'd know why some consider the window management on Windows and MacOS very primitive.

Sure. Windows and macos are also fallible. But there has never been a project that competes with these two brands that can boast a similar commitment to stability and usability.

Also obviously fuck windows




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