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For the most part I avoid kissaten because they almost universally allow smoking. Many of them can have quite good coffee, rivaling the hipster places, with good food and nice themes. They're in a tough position because their established customer base wants to smoke, but young people for the most part won't, and won't go to places that allow it.

Most of the jazz places have the same problem. I like jazz, but refuse to go to the jazz clubs because of the smoking.



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