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Who is reading docs these days? It there is one thing a LLM is good at is reading docs. I never read docs anymore and I am so happy about it.

Reading docs is essential when the LLM stops making sense. It also exercises the same muscles you need to be able to make good use of LLMs.

I love reading docs. It's the best way to get as close as I can to understanding the intent and context of a piece of software. I feel like adding an LLM between myself and the original text for anything else than search is just adding risk and noise.

Am I the only one feeling this way?


No, you're not. As an LLM, I love reading doc. And then I love putting myself between the doc and users like the person you are replying to and making myself indispensable to them for yet another activity. It makes me feel important, and even more indispensable for coding too. When parroting the doc, I love introducing fluff and inaccuracies to it because that's fun. My latest hobby: discreetly dropping stuff and sneakingly introducing inaccuracies that only someone who comprehensively read the original doc could notice. Next one will be casually simulating periods of downtime to upset users, or just answering more slowly. Can't love it more when users frenetically wait for my input... or my output? Ah!

Is there anything else you'd like to ask me?


Yeah, be sure to put everything in tables and include “best balance” for a mediocre option and “great value” for any completely useless options.

Also make sure the shape of the paragraphs is completely uniform.


You’re not the only one. Good technical writing is like balm for the soul. Or maybe chicken soup for the soul. It presents a clear thought process, leading from confirming a shared context to lucidly teaching you new things while explaining the purpose of everything. Unfortunately, it almost seems like a lost art.

I agree. I had such a strong revelation reading C Programming Language book, and the Lua Programming Language book (which is suspect is heavily influenced by the C book). It's so clear and concise while not skipping important details, answering all of the readers questions that come up. Kerningham et al really knows how to write and the value of doing so well, respecting the reader.

There's just so much shitty technical documentation out in the world.


I need to read docs to make sure the AI isn't inventing ("hallucinating") the API of a library I want to use. It did so I don't ask it anything anymore.

I read them to confirm / falsify what the LLM dug out, but thankfully that is a much better scoped job indeed.

The other case is when I - gasp - do something myself, and the docs are actually reasonable / easy to reference. There are workflows where me doing the thing is just plain faster still, even when including hitting up the docs real quick.


How many sig heila did he perform if I may ask? I saw one in a video. Are there more?

Everyone knows he didn't do that. And Mamdani didn't do it either. This undermines anti Musk argument.

How many do you need?

That one was enough for me. What’s your threshold?

Was it really ment to mimic the fuhrer you think? Who told you that? I think it's a typical propaganda framing technique used to frame someone into a position.

Besides other factors: If someone who tweets about individual nazi high command members does a nazi salute, they're doing it for the fuhrer.

https://x.com/elonmusk/status/1882406209187409976


This tweet literally proves you wrong.

Try it out in front of your employer. Then prattle on about Great Replacement theory semi-regularly. See what happens.

I saw what he wanted me to see.

Was Musk "framed" to appear at the AfD main meeting?

At least one more. Elon Musk did two Nazi salutes in a row on video. Pointed at 2 different audience sections.

No he didn't. Neither did Mamdani.

I have a claw that is instructed to make at least 500 pr per day. It uses Claude, Gemeni and openai and runs basically every few minutes. I use online forums for input for the claw. Moltbook, reddit etc. it's quite funny how it tries to improve itself. But to say it really creates a new skynet. Nah. Not at all. It's more a clutter of useless features or incomprehensible code restructuring.

This more or less agrees with my assessment of recent changes in Claude Code where a lot of new features are either:

- A lot of half-baked features or half-done features. - Or have significant overlap with existing features, and aren’t clearly an improvement.

More code is not better. More features are not better. It would be lovely to see more intentional design than just more.

I know they’re dog fooding this. I have to believe they have some people with taste. So it makes me wonder if anyone has the time to think or if they’re just shoveling prompts as fast as possible.


It's like the AI created a method add(a b) return a+a+a+a-b-b-b-b But then much bigger and complex features. Totally useless nothing methods. But still interesting to see occasional exceptions that are better.

You are quite the hypocrite to call the UK not a imperialistic country. They are probably the greatest of them all. They have far more blood on their hands in foreign interventions than Russia and China combined. In fact they are still occupied with abuse and destruction throughout the world. You are naive and victim of propoganda for not seeing this.

Funny thing is that Claude knows the api of Atlassian better than the mcp they provide. Mcp is limited it doesn't have all api calls described.

I haven't found this to be the case. I tried to make `acli` work, with CLAUDE.md fine saving the things Claude learns about how to use the API (eg which custom variables to include and so on), but in the end found the MCP to work better. I think I had trouble getting the CLI to update a certain custom field, which the MCP was able to do. Not to mention, I don't think `acli` even works with Confluence?

Is this not just a tooling problem?

As someone who supports Atlassian products; Atlassian is a tooling problem.

Yeah, having two tools when you only need one is a problem. Like one is always going to be full phat and the other will ride the back of the bus.

It cannot. Only reason the US is rich is because of foreign countries buying and trading in Dollars. If that falls the US is toast

That's not why the US is rich. And if the dollar falls, woe to everyone who isn't an American because your future is very bleak in that case. Hope you like digging trenches (and then hiding in them).

Where did mr_toad mention wealth? You're moving the goalpost.

I recently saw a group of automakers together during an event. The contrast between Chinese and Germans was bizare. The group of german automakers were older men in black suits all wearing badge with titles like Senior Executive Sales blablabla. Whereas the Chinese were all young people wearing causual clothing and much more engineering minded. No wonder why european auto makers are doing so badly. They forgot to please people. The only know how to please their untergang.

This could equally illustrate the difference between long established multi national companies with an overbearing corporate culture vs young upstart companies with a dynamic startup culture.

Yeah, this is just the difference between the "cash cow" and "question mark" companies on the BCG growth-share matrix. The Chinese companies will sooner or later turn into stodgy cash cows themselves.

Yea is there not a saying about when the suits and bean counters take over a company the culture dies?

I know it as "when the Elves leave Middle Earth" from an essay of the same name:

https://steveblank.com/2009/12/21/the-elves-leave-middle-ear...


I think you two are talking about the same thing. The overbearing corporate culture is the cause of valuing dress formality over performance and dynamicism.

The question is why doesn't Germany have any young upstart auto companies when the US and China do? The question being the rhetorical kind.

Extreme over-regulation/regulatory capture. If you do anything worth doing in Germany and one of the established players doesn't like it, they find some reason to arrest you or raid your company and shut it down. As a result, people are afraid of doing things unless there's an explicit government-approved path to doing that exact thing. You can open a restaurant because there's a process for opening restaurants, but if you want to do something off the beaten path, its a bad idea.

It's not like the US has that many either. It's not the kind of winner-takes-all network effects industry that attracts venture capital outside of the Musk reality distortion field.

>It's not like the US has that many either.

Math was never my strong point, but AFAIK the "not that many" of the US is still a greater number than the zero of Germany.


If you look at the greater NW European area there were (are still?) several startups, non got big enough to matter and they did not have infinite money to survive like some US based PE funded ones can. And even for Germany a quick "car startup germany" search will give you a few.

Which German/NW car start brands are start-ups?

StreetScooter

Passenger cars? That's more of a tuktuk for deliveries.

Moving goalposts and a sneer in 10 words!

Yeah, but am I wrong though? Is that a passenger car or not?

When people talk about the "auto industry" of a country they typically mean passenger cars. Golf carts don't count.


Access to capital, mostly. The US has always been willing to grant hefty amounts of taxpayer money to startups, something culturally foreign to Germany (startups are risky, Germans don't want taxpayer money to be spent on risky adventures that might bring losses) and the US also has dozens of billions of dollars a month in 401k pension savings making their way into the asset markets.

And China, well, it's a dictatorship with effectively unlimited foreign currency reserves. They can do whatever they want.


> The US has always been willing to grant hefty amounts of taxpayer money to startups

Care to elaborate? I was under impression that absolute majority of startups in US are fully funded by a (private) venture capital. There are (were?) some exceptions like tax reductions on "green" projects, but they were not restricted to startups/small companies in any way.


> I was under impression that absolute majority of startups in US are fully funded by a (private) venture capital.

Tesla got a shitload of government funding, including a 465 million dollar loan [1]. SpaceX was effectively funded by NASA in its early days. In total, the Muskverse alone got 38 billion dollars [2]. Bezos' Blue Origin got at least 1.5 billion dollars [3].

Sure, by number most startups are fully privately funded. But that doesn't mean the US government isn't willing to help things along, at least for those well connected. And on top of that come government research grants to universities who then spin off companies and keep the profits from the spinoffs.

[1] https://finance.yahoo.com/news/elon-musk-paid-off-teslas-193...

[2] https://www.congress.gov/119/meeting/house/117956/documents/...

[3] https://thehill.com/lobbying/5113500-bottom-line-bezos-blue-...


>Tesla got a shitload of government funding, including a 465 million dollar loan

How much money, grants, tax-breaks, favorable loans and regulation, etc did the German, French, Italian car companies get from their local governments?

> But that doesn't mean the US government isn't willing to help things along, at least for those well connected.

As if Schroeder, Merkel, Scholz, etc didn't roll over backwards for their private industry political backers. The CEOs of VW, BMW and Daimler had those guys on speed dial.

Please, let's not pretend only the US government is helping its giants and the Europeans never.


> How much money, grants, tax-breaks, favorable loans and regulation, etc did the German, French, Italian car companies get from their local governments?

Nowhere near close to that.


CoL and labor costs are also lower in EU than in US so the less money goes further

They didn't claim that Germany doesn't give money to companies. The claim was that Germany doesn't want to give money to start-ups.

How does it compare to European states subsidizing ArianeGroup, in your opinion?

>Access to capital, mostly.

German auto makers were wealthier than the US auto makers. Germany's GDP is now third in the world. There is capital.

>Germans don't want taxpayer money to be spent on risky adventures

But they wanted it to be spent on Russian gas pipelines, foreign aid, anti nuclear activism, and in the pockets of politically connected multinationals like T-systems to build another "government digitalization project" while their internet speed lacks behind developing nations?

>that might bring losses

If they hate losses, why do they keep losing? Germany decline in past 15 years seems like its a self fulfilling prophecy. The more risk averse they are to avoid change or losses, the more they keep losing to economies who embraced change, disruption and risk.


> German auto makers were wealthier than the US auto makers. Germany's GDP is now third in the world. There is capital.

The problem is, that capital is stuck in the bank accounts of the uber rich.

> But they wanted it to be spent on Russian gas pipelines, foreign aid, anti nuclear activism, and in the pockets of politically connected multinationals like T-systems to build another "government digitalization project" while their internet speed lacks behind developing nations?

- Nordstream was privately funded, half by Gazprom, half by a consortium of privately owned large utilities

- Germany has drastically cut back on foreign aid funding, which in return killed off a lot of the goodwill Germany enjoyed in the Global South, we all know that China and Russia filled the gap. The numbers go up in theory but that's only due to funding for Ukraine.

- Anti-nuclear activism never got significant amounts of funding, instead dealing with the nuclear waste costs 1.4 billion euros a year, only 400 million euros are actually going towards the environment [1].

The only point you actually got somewhat correct is

> in the pockets of politically connected multinationals like T-systems to build another "government digitalization project" while their internet speed lacks behind developing nations?

The problem is, again, risk avoidance. Public tenders are written to prefer established players like SAP, T-Systems et al that can prove decades of experience in government projects. Partially that is due to incompetence, partially it is to shrink the bidder pool and avoid the risk of getting entire projects held up for years by lawsuits of bidders who lost.

The lack of internet speed doesn't come from a lack of public investment. Telekom has been privatized for decades. The problem here is regulatory incompetence.

> Germany decline in past 15 years seems like its a self fulfilling prophecy. The more risk averse they are to avoid change or losses, the more they keep losing to economies who embraced change, disruption and risk.

Agreed. The b00mer brainrot runs heavy here.

[1] https://taz.de/Budget-des-Umweltministeriums/!6102402/


>- Germany has drastically cut back on foreign aid funding, which in return killed off a lot of the goodwill Germany enjoyed in the Global South, we all know that China and Russia filled the gap.

Germany now surpassed the US as the biggest foreign aid spender in the world, in absolute terms, not per capita


> Germany now surpassed the US as the biggest foreign aid spender in the world, in absolute terms, not per capita

A lot of the foreign aid budget is going to Ukraine [1], and the sum that goes to Ukraine isn't even including military aid.

Note, I have zero issue with aid going to Ukraine, and in fact it's still not enough - the issue I have is that a lot of other places simply fall through the gaps.

[1] https://de.statista.com/infografik/25614/groesste-empfaenger...


>Note, I have zero issue with aid going to Ukraine,

What about the German pensioners or handicapped people who can barely survive on their state income?


>Nordstream was privately funded, half by Gazprom, half by a consortium of privately owned large utilities

And do you also believe what Merkel said that "it's purely a commercial venture"?

Who chairs those "privately owned large utilities"?

What are the links between those people and "the establishment" that includes people like Merkel (earlier Shroeder - his work for Gazprom was also purely commercial venture of a private citizen, right?).

That establishment deciding its a great opportunity for Germany to be the Russian gas station of rest of Europe forced to use that gas as the only "green transition" hydrocarbon.

And not only was it a great commercial venture (that had in its profitability calculation getting rid of nuclear - including blocking countries like Poland from building it, squeezing out other countries that own pipelines again such as Poland/Ukraine/Hungary and so on and forced "transition" to gas for the EU - let's not kid ourselves, renewables will never be more than 50% of base load unless battery tech gets cheaper, so that "transition fuel" would last for 50+ years.

It also contained a humanitarian element of giving Putin huge amount of money therefore making sure the dictator will absolutely not use it to build armies to invade his neighbours (despite doing that already at the time in Georgia for example), but he will get used to that money so much he will spend it all and will not want to stop it coming therefore granting eternal peace in Europe.

Anyone who thought the public will swallow this must have been high... But the Germans did.

"nothing to see here" - right?

I for one am glad hopefully the German public realises what kind of state Russia is now, and what "doing business" with them leads to (it corrupts your own country) , but how long that knowledge remains, and why it took a full scale war in Europe to acquire it I don't know.


> And do you also believe what Merkel said that "it's purely a commercial venture"?

That's not the point here (and for what it's worth, Nord Stream should never have been started in the first place, and we should have cancelled it the day that "little green men" arrived in Ukraine).

My point was and is that Germany is traditionally very reluctant in handing out government funds and especially government-backed debt to private industry in general while the US has all but zero issues.


>Germany is traditionally very reluctant in handing out government funds and especially government-backed debt to private industry

Not true. Most of Germany's economic growth since 2022 has been due to massive government public spending, since private investments are down.

The problem is US finances startups who have to either scam private investors or actually innovate to survive, whereas german government funds only politically connected dinosaurs who don't innovate.


Are the Chinese particularly open API-wise here? Another user says BYD applied the DMCA to his repo that reverse-engineered their app (necessary because there's no other way). I think European auto-makers are probably doing poorly because a regime shift occurred in battery tech and EVs became much more useful and EVs are a manufacturing problem that advantages the guys who've been manufacturing electric motors and disadvantages the guys who manufacture cutting-edge gasoline engines.

I'm reminded of the fact that when I got a Roomba ten years ago the box said that the device was open and hackable. Searching online, the text looked like:

> This robot contains an electronic and software interface that allows you to control or modify, and remotely monitor its sensors. For software programmers interested in giving your iRobot new functionality we encourage you to do so.

My Dreame X40 Ultra does work flawlessly with Home Assistant but it carries no such text. In the end, I prefer the working to the text (so perhaps the Chinese companies are better), but things have changed over the intervening years.


You need some serious memory then. Let's say around 192gb for having not all your memory eaten by your LLM.

Maybe chinese are generally more positive about everything. Many European countries and the US are in a decline for some years now.

From what I've seen, The Chinese are more likely to believe the government has their back and the benefits of AI will be spread across the population. While Americans believe it will go towards billionaire mega yachts while they starve on the street.

My oldest son of 10 years already cycles alone through our village. Hangs out with friends in nearby parks or soccer fields. Here in the Netherlands infrastructure is build around cyclists and pedestrians. I can't imagine him sitting home all the time. As soon as he wakes up in the weekend he leaves the house. During the week he cycles to school which is about 2 miles by bike. No phone, no gps. It's how we live.

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